Logs are ranking me as a Fury when I'm tanking

Drath being categorized as tank even though he takes very few hits compared to others. Is this a different issue? https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/J6taBDzZdpWF1yTh#fight=3

Yeah itā€™s a bug caused by Razorgore being a pet according to Blizzardā€™s logs, so only Grethok is counting as a boss.

Iā€™m still wondering why Iā€™m consistently getting recognized as a fury when Iā€™m actually tanking. If not fixing this issue, could you at least share the metrics which are currently categorizing tanking vs dps for warriors?

I know itā€™s not easy - but Iā€™m sure we can help. Itā€™s very frustrating to get green dps logs when youā€™re second tank on a boss. In BWL, thereā€™s a lot of bosses you just taunt off the Main Tank. All three taunts should categorize you as a tank imho.

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I plan to work on this project next once I have Blackwing Lair sorted. Still busy with fight adjustments and what-not.

Reminder again to Classic people; youā€™re asking for lots of new features, and this site is only coded by one person. Canā€™t fix everything immediately. :slight_smile:

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Bear

5211  - Bash Rank 1
6798  - Bash Rank 2
8983  - Bash Rank 3
5209  - Challenging Roar 
99    - Demoralizing Roar Rank 1
1735  - Demoralizing Roar Rank 2
9490  - Demoralizing Roar Rank 3
9747  - Demoralizing Roar Rank 4
9898  - Demoralizing Roar Rank 5
5229  - Enrage 
22842 - Frenzied Regeneration Rank 1
22895 - Frenzied Regeneration Rank 2
22896 - Frenzied Regeneration Rank 3
6795  - Growl 
6807  - Maul Rank 1
6808  - Maul Rank 2
6809  - Maul Rank 3
8972  - Maul Rank 4
9745  - Maul Rank 5
9880  - Maul Rank 6
9881  - Maul Rank 7
779  - Swipe Rank 1
780  - Swipe Rank 2
769  - Swipe Rank 3
9754  - Swipe Rank 4
9908  - Swipe Rank 5

Cat

1082  - Claw Rank 1
3029  - Claw Rank 2
5201  - Claw Rank 3
9849  - Claw Rank 4
9850  - Claw Rank 5
8998  - Cower Rank 1
9000  - Cower Rank 2
9892  - Cower Rank 3
1850  - Dash Rank 1
9821  - Dash Rank 2
22568 - Ferocious Bite Rank 1
22827 - Ferocious Bite Rank 2
22828 - Ferocious Bite Rank 3
22829 - Ferocious Bite Rank 4
31018 - Ferocious Bite Rank 5
9005  - Pounce Rank 1
9823  - Pounce Rank 2
9827  - Pounce Rank 3
5215  - Prowl Rank 1
6783  - Prowl Rank 2
9913  - Prowl Rank 3
1822  - Rake Rank 1
1823  - Rake Rank 2
1824  - Rake Rank 3
9904  - Rake Rank 4
6785  - Ravage Rank 1
6787  - Ravage Rank 2
9866  - Ravage Rank 3
9867  - Ravage Rank 4
1079  - Rip Rank 1
9492  - Rip Rank 2
9493  - Rip Rank 3
9752  - Rip Rank 4
9894  - Rip Rank 5
9896  - Rip Rank 6
5221  - Shred Rank 1
6800  - Shred Rank 2
8992  - Shred Rank 3
9829  - Shred Rank 4
9830  - Shred Rank 5
5217  - Tiger's Fury Rank 1
6793  - Tiger's Fury Rank 2
9845  - Tiger's Fury Rank 3
9846  - Tiger's Fury Rank 4
5225  - Track Humanoids 

Moonkin form AND Humanoid form

22812 - Barkskin 
339   - Entangling Roots Rank 1
1062  - Entangling Roots Rank 2
5195  - Entangling Roots Rank 3
5196  - Entangling Roots Rank 4
9852  - Entangling Roots Rank 5
9853  - Entangling Roots Rank 6
770   - Faerie Fire Rank 1
778   - Faerie Fire Rank 2
9749  - Faerie Fire Rank 3
9907  - Faerie Fire Rank 4
2637  - Hibernate Rank 1
18657 - Hibernate Rank 2
18658 - Hibernate Rank 3
16914 - Hurricane Rank 1
17401 - Hurricane Rank 2
17402 - Hurricane Rank 3
8921  - Moonfire Rank 1
8924  - Moonfire Rank 2
8925  - Moonfire Rank 3
8926  - Moonfire Rank 4
8927  - Moonfire Rank 5
8928  - Moonfire Rank 6
8929  - Moonfire Rank 7
9833  - Moonfire Rank 8
9834  - Moonfire Rank 9
9835  - Moonfire Rank 10
2908  - Soothe Animal Rank 1
8955  - Soothe Animal Rank 2
9901  - Soothe Animal Rank 3
2912  - Starfire Rank 1
8949  - Starfire Rank 2
8950  - Starfire Rank 3
8951  - Starfire Rank 4
9875  - Starfire Rank 5
9876  - Starfire Rank 6
25298 - Starfire Rank 7
18960 - Teleport: Moonglade 
467   - Thorns Rank 1
782   - Thorns Rank 2
1075  - Thorns Rank 3
8914  - Thorns Rank 4
9756  - Thorns Rank 5
9910  - Thorns Rank 6
5176  - Wrath Rank 1
5177  - Wrath Rank 2
5178  - Wrath Rank 3
5179  - Wrath Rank 4
5180  - Wrath Rank 5
6780  - Wrath Rank 6
8905  - Wrath Rank 7
9912  - Wrath Rank 8

All skills that arenā€™t listed can only be cast in humanoid form.

Additionally, Moonkin Aura (24907) is applied to other players in the same party when the druid is in Moonkin form (24858), and likewise Leader of the Pack (17007) when in Cat or Bear form with ā€œdeepā€ feral spec.

edit: fixed moonkin

I am actually curious how people are finding the tank categorization in Blackwing Lair. As far as I can tell, itā€™s actually working pretty well now that Iā€™ve excluded certain adds from consideration (and fixed the warlock Corrupted Infernal to not count also).

Druids get logged as healers on Ebonroc due to the debuff. Otherwise, Iā€™m still getting logged as a cat way too often (except for Vael and Nef, Iā€™m basically always in bear form and tanking) see logs.

In fact, last raid I wasnā€™t logged as a tank a single fight (Bullwye and Germone were the other tanks, with mixed classification results)

When I look at your logs, you are tanking for very low percentages. For example you only take like 17% of Broodlordā€™s melee hits. I guess this raises the question of ā€œShould you be considered a tank just for being in a defensive stance or form but not tanking anything for most of the fight?ā€

Obviously? My spec and gear is made for tanking, not dealing damage.
Itā€™s the role Iā€™m playing in the raid.

If my role was to do DPS, Iā€™d be in cat form (or Moonkin; or playing a different class).

As for that specific fight, the other tank was missed by the bossā€™s Knock Away skill (at 59.531s), which reduces threat by 50%, which meant he could keep tanking, otherwise itā€™d have attacked the 3rd tank
or me again.
Why should something like that change which role one is ranked as?

Ok, thanks. Also thanks for the spell ids, thatā€™s exactly what I needed. Can you elaborate on the Ebonroc thing?

Edit: never mind, i see the issue and will update to exclude the Shadow of Ebonroc heal from heal spec determination.

Tank logs are flawed.
It only calculate damage which makes it useless to even look at.
Thereā€™s nothing on damage mitigated and threat.
Being tagged as a tank or fury doesnā€™t matter right now.
Because in the end, it doesnā€™t rank people on the good metrics.

As long as the tank doesnā€™t die, threat is the most important metric in classic and for fury and feral tanks, damage and threat correlate very closely.

Ok, I have implemented the stance-based solution, with a threshold of 40% of the time spent in bear form or defensive stance. Weā€™ll see how this works out compared to the old heuristic.

Had to roll this out because of a crasher, will post again when itā€™s re-deployed.

Itā€™s back in again.

It looked good for my domo fight list night,
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4yRFWTw9VjGm1kfZ#fight=51
everyone but khing was logged as a tank correctly. If we reupload older logs will they update with the new heuristics?
I.E.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6PXkhLgCtcJa1Fj3

Donā€™t have to re-upload, can just go to the rankings section of the report and click the export button.

Thats awesome, thanks

No rush on this as I know you are busy but I think you can completely remove the hit heuristic since you have the bear heuristic in.
In this log he is marked as a tank cause he took a lot of hits but you can see he is only in bear for about 2% of the fight. I would consider this to be a dps role not a tank role.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4GZYkqVrHbAxmRD3#fight=30&ability=1&view=rankings

I did completely remove the hit heuristic. Looks like the buff id I used for Bear Form is wrong? He gets a buff called Dire Bear Form instead, so now Iā€™m a bit confused what buff I should be looking for for bear form.