# Shirt/Tabard iLvl's skewing iLvl Brackets
**URL:** https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342
**Category:** Warcraft Logs
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342 "2016-10-11T14:56:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Ratchter](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Ratchter)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/1 "2016-10-11T14:56:40Z")
Many people and guilds use iLvl bracket rankings to judge and improve their DPS/HPS. However, I have noticed that a lot of people with certain tabards and shirts equipped can lower their ilvl by a very large margin, totally skewing the data. For example, and ilvl 811 may grab rank 1 DPS for the 829 ilvl bracket even though he has all 860-870 gear and an 880 artifact weapon. But he has a ilvl 40 tabard or an ilvl 1 shirt that is skewing his ilvl.
Tabards and shirts should not be included in the equation.
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### Author:  [@Kihra](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Kihra)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/2 "2016-10-11T15:20:25Z")
They are not included. Not sure why you think they are.
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### Author:  [@Ratchter](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Ratchter)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/3 "2016-10-12T06:13:42Z")
This is just some of many examples:
[https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XLGZ6RnTtFNQ1AxB#fight=1&type=summary&source=7](https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XLGZ6RnTtFNQ1AxB#fight=1&type=summary&source=7) **Not an item below 850, but clocked in at 810**
[https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZJXfpF4RhdcNAPHG#fight=15&type=summary&source=65](https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZJXfpF4RhdcNAPHG#fight=15&type=summary&source=65) **Legendary + 883 weapon; not an item below 845. Clocked in at 808**
[https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yvJjBhMrNHwa6WX2#fight=22&type=summary&source=7](https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yvJjBhMrNHwa6WX2#fight=22&type=summary&source=7) **Not an item under 840. Has Legendary and many high ilvl pieces. Clocked in at 806**
All of these players (and many many more) have their epic shirts or epic tabard’s ilvl included.
That is why I _think_ they are.
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### Author:  [@Kihra](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Kihra)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/4 "2016-10-12T07:04:50Z")
Hmmm yeah possible. It might be a bug with the item level in the new COMBATANT\_INFO event. The first log you linked the person’s ilvl is legitimately low, since he’s wearing an ilvl 60 cloak, but the others I only see shirts at low ilvl.
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### Author:  [@Kihra](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Kihra)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/5 "2016-10-12T07:13:05Z")
It’s weirder than that. Not sure what is going on without the raw log file. The guy reported as 808 has 858 in an earlier boss, and he still has the shirt on.
[https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yvJjBhMrNHwa6WX2#fight=2&type=summary&source=7](https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yvJjBhMrNHwa6WX2#fight=2&type=summary&source=7)
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### Author:  [@Kihra](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Kihra)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/6 "2016-10-12T07:14:19Z")
It’s broken gear. Basically a piece of gear is red and not supplying stats.
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### Author:  [@Ratchter](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Ratchter)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/shirt-tabard-ilvls-skewing-ilvl-brackets/1342/7 "2016-10-12T14:03:37Z")
Oh that make sense. Is there a way to remove the coding the detracts broken gear from the ilvl?