# Falling death = dead logger?

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**Category:** General\
**Created:** [May 8, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/falling-death-dead-logger/3301 "2017-05-08T20:20:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![zaery](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.combatlogforums.com/zaery/32/44_2.png) [@zaery](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/zaery)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/falling-death-dead-logger/3301/1 "2017-05-08T20:20:50Z")

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Every time someone falls to their death, it counts as an instant death with no killing blow for whoever is logging. Then we get silly things like this:

[https://www.wildstarlogs.com/reports/xpT2bzD8Qn7Hj4XZ#view=analytical&boss=105&difficulty=100&wipes=1&type=deaths](https://www.wildstarlogs.com/reports/xpT2bzD8Qn7Hj4XZ#view=analytical&boss=105&difficulty=100&wipes=1&type=deaths)

and this:

[https://www.wildstarlogs.com/reports/xpT2bzD8Qn7Hj4XZ#view=analytical&type=deaths&source=7&fight=2](https://www.wildstarlogs.com/reports/xpT2bzD8Qn7Hj4XZ#view=analytical&type=deaths&source=7&fight=2)

I’m sure this is just a Carbine bug, but could this be fixed on the log analysis end? Or could I just ignore these "death"s with a query? I’d like to just use a query like “source!=null”, but I can’t figure out the syntax to make it work.

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**Author:** ![Kihra](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.combatlogforums.com/kihra/32/1116_2.png) [@Kihra](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Kihra)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/falling-death-dead-logger/3301/2 "2017-05-08T21:52:43Z")

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[killingAbility.id](http://killingAbility.id) \> 0

in the filter expression field should get rid of any deaths for which the killing blow could not be determined.
