# Default Points/Damage Ranking Display

**URL:** <https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [December 6, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946 "2024-12-06T04:11:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![gormal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@gormal](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/gormal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946/1 "2024-12-06T04:11:08Z")

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I’m not sure if this has changed recently, but now when you go to a character’s page, it displays their damage rankings by default rather than points (a great change) for raid. But if you change to M+ it reverts to points, which is certainly going to cause confusion for many users.

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**Author:** ![Azrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Azrael](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Azrael)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946/2 "2024-12-06T04:39:41Z")

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Hello,

Points should always display for M+ by default. You can use the drop down menu to show the damage logs, most runs aren’t logged so we default to points because of that.

Hope this clears things up,

Azrael.

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**Author:** ![gormal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@gormal](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/gormal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946/3 "2024-12-06T07:13:19Z")

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Just think points are a useless metric, especially for keys. And wouldn’t you want to encourage people using the site by making actual performance and logged data the default metric rather then a weird rio/armory score variant?

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**Author:** ![Azrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Azrael](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/u/Azrael)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/default-points-damage-ranking-display/15946/4 "2024-12-06T13:51:55Z")

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Hello,

The points are the m+ score, it’s the same data from the game and [raider.io](http://raider.io). There’s no difference from the metric we use, it’s just the number of points you get from clearing a run at a certain keystone level.

Azrael.