# Bug Classic WOW: My Mage is Misclassified as Frost

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**Category:** Warcraft Logs\
**Created:** [October 16, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/bug-classic-wow-my-mage-is-misclassified-as-frost/10573 "2020-10-16T11:09:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/bug-classic-wow-my-mage-is-misclassified-as-frost/10573/5 "2020-10-18T11:10:46Z")

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@Kihra  
I agree that Warcraft Logs cannot guarantee 100% accuracy when trying to identify specs - as specs aren’t known during combat, Warcraft Logs needs to somehow determine specs from events.

The trouble with using Master of Elements as the primary indicator of spec - Fire versus Frost - is that Master of Elements only procs if a critical strike occurs.

My mage is well-geared - but without World Buffs - I have only 13% critical strike chance for frost spells.

Numerous encounters are fairly short - and let’s say, for BWL, that I’m forced to cast frostbolt - due to boss immunity to fire.

Looking at our BWL logs, this means that I can only cast, say 18 frostbolts, for short encounters.

The math here is:  
(0.87\*\*18)\*100 = 8%

Which is to say, using MoE to gauge whether or not a mage is fire-spec can be off by 8% in cases where a fire spec mage has lost world buffs but is specced into MoE in a short encounter where frost spells are cast.

Moreover, as a previous poster pointed out, some fire-spec mages will not take MoE - opting for POM-Pyro. The MoE approach to mage spec identification will miss all such mages - probably the POM-Pyro spec is somewhat popular for mages wishing to spec fire for PvP but don’t want to spend gold to respec for PvE.

Bottom line - focusing on MoE events - which depend on critical strikes - will miscategorize roughly 8% of mages in short encounters where world buffs are lost and the mage doesn’t apply wizard oil; also, POM-Pyro spec mages will be miscategorized regardless of crits.

Such mages won’t be in competition for top parses (in most cases) - so perhaps this is acceptable.

On the other hand, mage spec detection can be dramatically and easily improved:

1. Consider MoE procs over the entire raid, instead of a single encounter;
2. Consider certain spell casts as indicative of fire-spec since some fire specs won’t take MoE; e.g., Pyroblast and Blastwave, if cast, indicate a fire mage spec

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